1 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:14,240 this is show 53 for the today which is 2 00:00:17,810 --> 00:00:16,200 the 23rd was it let's delay the 23rd 3 00:00:20,540 --> 00:00:17,820 should we just make that nice and they 4 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:20,550 even so should be the 20th a video looks 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:26,160 good and this is for you people watching 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:28,410 it on you choose that recording now 7 00:00:32,179 --> 00:00:29,970 that's recording this that's recording 8 00:00:34,190 --> 00:00:32,189 hey that's recording so for you people 9 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:34,200 watching it on YouTube this is the extra 10 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:35,910 feature that's right and that's 11 00:00:38,569 --> 00:00:37,320 recording too but that's on my private 12 00:00:40,639 --> 00:00:38,579 channel because it's got a different 13 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,649 angle that is not approved for the 14 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,719 skeptics out now so everything's 15 00:00:46,599 --> 00:00:44,640 recording this is a YouTube special 16 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:46,609 extra feature that if you listen to this 17 00:00:51,829 --> 00:00:50,070 on the on the zone proper yeah download 18 00:00:53,389 --> 00:00:51,839 the skeptic zone you won't hear or see 19 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:53,399 this that's right but you'll be hearing 20 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:55,409 us talking about it no you won't because 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:56,760 we'll start in a minute because well 22 00:01:00,649 --> 00:00:58,890 they're all special ah this like the 23 00:01:03,139 --> 00:01:00,659 directors car this is director this is 24 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:03,149 the director right here Richard good to 25 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:05,190 see you again hello Stefan we're back 26 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:06,960 we're back in the zone this must be an 27 00:01:12,110 --> 00:01:09,720 episode of what 4032 or something it is 28 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:12,120 good gifts ah I wish it was now it's in 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:14,520 fact it's episode number 53 for the 23rd 30 00:01:19,940 --> 00:01:17,090 of October which is today by the way Oh 31 00:01:21,530 --> 00:01:19,950 today is the is actually today it's 32 00:01:24,770 --> 00:01:21,540 actually today today is today that's 33 00:01:27,980 --> 00:01:24,780 that's a dominant it's amazing and it's 34 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:27,990 owned 53 it says actually it's like the 35 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:29,940 first one of the year but not really 36 00:01:34,910 --> 00:01:32,400 because we missed a couple actually no 37 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:34,920 we didn't miss any so this is like happy 38 00:01:43,970 --> 00:01:41,820 new year happy new year what truth well 39 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:43,980 I mean we've gone over the year we have 40 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:46,860 we have so this is a few presented the 41 00:01:51,410 --> 00:01:49,380 the second year okay that's 53 42 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:51,420 cuz i think there's 52 weeks the yield 43 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:55,140 there oh I see so yes yes early on in 44 00:01:59,540 --> 00:01:57,000 the very first few months we skip none 45 00:02:01,370 --> 00:01:59,550 up off we skipped her I remember that I 46 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:01,380 was a deep and dark depressing time to 47 00:02:06,890 --> 00:02:04,950 mix well it's good to be back and every 48 00:02:09,859 --> 00:02:06,900 three we got a bit of an interesting 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:09,869 episode together the editor from this 50 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:11,610 scientific america actually that's right 51 00:02:15,530 --> 00:02:13,800 uh he's just retired he was the former 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:15,540 editor-in-chief of Scientific American 53 00:02:21,570 --> 00:02:18,450 magazine John ready and dr. H he caught 54 00:02:23,550 --> 00:02:21,580 up with him in New York how was he like 55 00:02:25,230 --> 00:02:23,560 in that position for a long time he was 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:25,240 um actually I think they mentioned that 57 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:27,730 in the interview right cuz that's a 58 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:30,130 pretty pretty established magazine 59 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:31,630 that's way before the internet that's 60 00:02:35,550 --> 00:02:33,850 amazing yeah and she got him that's 61 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:35,560 fantastic now that's followed by our 62 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:37,840 reporter nurse Joanne been amoo who goes 63 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:40,690 and gets a swine flu shot a real one or 64 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:43,540 homeopathic one a real homie bad no Leo 65 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:46,780 real one a real one excellent is that we 66 00:02:50,910 --> 00:02:48,190 can hear her actually getting the choppa 67 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:50,920 cool do you remember about all five or 68 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:53,380 six months ago I went and I had a shot 69 00:02:57,780 --> 00:02:56,110 myself uh-uh pertussis yes I remember 70 00:03:00,000 --> 00:02:57,790 that and you said it hurt a little bit 71 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:00,010 hardly at all hardly felt an honest 72 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:01,690 night yeah I'll burn you you're brave 73 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:04,090 tough man so your net ID be a screaming 74 00:03:08,820 --> 00:03:06,670 like a girl have to figure out a ninja 75 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:08,830 over the homeopathic one I just have a 76 00:03:13,740 --> 00:03:10,750 drink of homeopathic remedy you'll be 77 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:13,750 fine easy and a bit of Reiki bitter Iggy 78 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:15,130 that everything be cooked can't forget 79 00:03:18,090 --> 00:03:16,720 the ready that's followed by the think 80 00:03:19,949 --> 00:03:18,100 tank of course there were told thing 81 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:19,959 takes where where is the think tank this 82 00:03:23,699 --> 00:03:22,120 week in our favorite club down the 83 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:23,709 street which is the Canterbury holston 84 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:26,680 park RSL which is a bit of a legend of 85 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:28,870 Club landing in sydney if you ever come 86 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:31,000 to Australia if you lives the overseas 87 00:03:37,229 --> 00:03:33,790 or here in Sydney go to the CHP RSL 88 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:37,239 because it is a cabaret Mecca it is 89 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:39,730 they've got a lot of them acts that were 90 00:03:46,410 --> 00:03:43,570 really bigger than 60 in fact i think 91 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:46,420 the search is a circus or the secrets of 92 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:48,430 that i actually supported the searches 93 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:50,470 at can be healthy park areas of couple 94 00:03:56,009 --> 00:03:52,120 years ago anything they were still 95 00:03:57,570 --> 00:03:56,019 walking without Zimmer frame amazing 96 00:03:59,759 --> 00:03:57,580 tell you what talking about the 97 00:04:03,690 --> 00:03:59,769 Canterbury Coulson park area so it was 98 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:03,700 there I met Don lane it was not it was 99 00:04:09,509 --> 00:04:06,880 you did bout five years back I was there 100 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:09,519 for some other reason I can't remember 101 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:13,180 why and Don Lane was divided out of that 102 00:04:17,610 --> 00:04:16,000 I think all do it was a game as America 103 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:17,620 now we mentioned online of course 104 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:20,950 because he died only yesterday yes at 75 105 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:24,520 and he was the man who kicked james 106 00:04:28,780 --> 00:04:27,010 randi off his varieties in a fit of rage 107 00:04:33,010 --> 00:04:28,790 in fact I'll just play that 108 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:33,020 right now there you go wow it's 109 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:34,880 definitely more like an over the Doris 110 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:37,370 Stokes Doran he believed in her 111 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:39,110 thoroughly well you got to think of the 112 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:40,880 time it was I mean this is Don lane he 113 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:42,350 had his show in the late 70s to the 114 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:44,450 early 80s hmm and that was really 115 00:04:48,910 --> 00:04:47,120 especially the late 70s was the big time 116 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:48,920 for all the spoon bending and the 117 00:04:52,930 --> 00:04:50,810 psychics so that's sort of funny people 118 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:52,940 here and so Doris Stokes and these 119 00:04:57,190 --> 00:04:54,230 people would come on the Don Lane show 120 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:57,200 do their act really well and convince a 121 00:05:01,060 --> 00:04:59,120 lot of bids a lot of people Don Lane was 122 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:01,070 obviously I even here comes James Randi 123 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:03,230 saying no it's not really happening well 124 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:04,730 darling spit the dummy is they're saying 125 00:05:09,190 --> 00:05:06,860 because there's good ratings yeah good 126 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:09,200 ratings and it would be ironic if he was 127 00:05:14,290 --> 00:05:11,210 actually up there now looking down on us 128 00:05:16,510 --> 00:05:14,300 yo you know trying to break through that 129 00:05:18,910 --> 00:05:16,520 sort of veil of communication that the 130 00:05:21,250 --> 00:05:18,920 spirit people can't get through to our 131 00:05:24,610 --> 00:05:21,260 to lowly humans like I wouldn't miss be 132 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:24,620 I wound up your phone is so ironic and 133 00:05:30,610 --> 00:05:27,530 talking about irony yes a median right 134 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:30,620 anyway uh is in really good news dr. 135 00:05:35,950 --> 00:05:33,680 rachy and I have just scored a regular 136 00:05:39,310 --> 00:05:35,960 gig on radio 2 GB here in Sydney you 137 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:39,320 haven't yeah yeah what as a skeptic yet 138 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:41,510 it yeah starting this Saturday night 139 00:05:46,330 --> 00:05:44,090 after 8pm it'll be between eight pm and 140 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,340 nine play on chatty bit yeah we're going 141 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:48,320 into downtown to the studio here in 142 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:49,880 Sydney and we're going to be on Sydney 143 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:51,260 radio I hope they're not going to call 144 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:53,450 it the skeptic zone I have not I don't 145 00:05:56,410 --> 00:05:54,530 know I don't know what they're going to 146 00:05:58,750 --> 00:05:56,420 call it but if you listen as you want to 147 00:06:04,210 --> 00:05:58,760 tune in you can hear us all around the 148 00:06:06,610 --> 00:06:04,220 world www.2g be calm right that's 149 00:06:09,070 --> 00:06:06,620 fantastic you'll have to check your time 150 00:06:14,380 --> 00:06:09,080 tables and scales and dates now yeah 151 00:06:16,690 --> 00:06:14,390 this life-saving Sydney time on saturday 152 00:06:18,970 --> 00:06:16,700 night between eight and nine daylight 153 00:06:24,610 --> 00:06:18,980 saving so add an hour to your normal and 154 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:24,620 in dumb are you getting paid not yet get 155 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:26,560 a contra deal no the rewards will be 156 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:28,910 normally that just to the warm and fuzzy 157 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:30,440 feeling the warm and fuzzy feeling and 158 00:06:35,410 --> 00:06:32,090 who knows they may even hear us in 159 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:35,420 Mexico I say that up because I've had an 160 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:37,400 email from a bloke in Mexico who would 161 00:06:43,049 --> 00:06:39,969 like me to quickly mention his 162 00:06:48,109 --> 00:06:43,059 weblog yoyi which means skeptical dad 163 00:06:54,929 --> 00:06:48,119 such as HTTP colon slash slash pa pa e 164 00:06:57,719 --> 00:06:54,939 SC EPT I see Oh Papa is skeptical dot 165 00:06:59,069 --> 00:06:57,729 wordpress com okay and when I saw that 166 00:07:00,779 --> 00:06:59,079 email actually he sounds like a pretty 167 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:00,789 cool dude he was he is a great email 168 00:07:04,049 --> 00:07:02,349 yeah yeah he said to you too of course 169 00:07:05,549 --> 00:07:04,059 that's right and he wants to he wants to 170 00:07:07,739 --> 00:07:05,559 get a bit of a skeptical thing happening 171 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:07,749 in Mexico which is a home of a lot of 172 00:07:12,269 --> 00:07:10,329 world a bit so I think we should 173 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:12,279 encourage him if anyone else is anywhere 174 00:07:16,229 --> 00:07:14,319 near Mexico or thinking of heading down 175 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:16,239 there to maybe you know break bail or 176 00:07:21,419 --> 00:07:18,639 something um gone gonna catch up with 177 00:07:22,679 --> 00:07:21,429 him and get something so check out check 178 00:07:24,689 --> 00:07:22,689 out his website check out his website 179 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:24,699 well there's so much on today's show 180 00:07:29,069 --> 00:07:27,039 Stefan I think we've we've we've 181 00:07:31,229 --> 00:07:29,079 outstayed our introductory we have we'd 182 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:31,239 better move on let's go enjoy the show 183 00:07:34,619 --> 00:07:33,039 thanks for listening and Richard will 184 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:34,629 see you at the tail end okay all right 185 00:07:44,669 --> 00:07:39,969 let's go let's go yeah all right let's 186 00:07:46,169 --> 00:07:44,679 do it you see this is this is what you 187 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:46,179 don't get there to see you're here 188 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:49,089 normally look when you're just listening 189 00:07:53,429 --> 00:07:51,759 to the show Oh youtube skeptical zone 190 00:07:54,779 --> 00:07:53,439 things right and I forgot the camera was 191 00:07:57,149 --> 00:07:54,789 on so I probably did all sorts of silly 192 00:07:59,669 --> 00:07:57,159 things probably that's crazy alright so 193 00:08:01,350 --> 00:07:59,679 now we do the rapper Richard another 194 00:08:02,999 --> 00:08:01,360 fabulous shows and that interesting 195 00:08:05,159 --> 00:08:03,009 wasn't that interview of John wasn't 196 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:05,169 anything like a way by arms around them 197 00:08:10,679 --> 00:08:07,300 and on a podcast it's an it's amazing 198 00:08:12,359 --> 00:08:10,689 yes but that's for our um our viewers a 199 00:08:14,969 --> 00:08:12,369 video viewers yeah we're doing a little 200 00:08:16,829 --> 00:08:14,979 video experiment yeah it's very exciting 201 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:16,839 isn't it yes very sorry hello camera 202 00:08:21,299 --> 00:08:19,360 hello camera great show yeah well i know 203 00:08:22,799 --> 00:08:21,309 i really i really enjoyed that show I'm 204 00:08:25,739 --> 00:08:22,809 it was always good to be part of the 205 00:08:27,659 --> 00:08:25,749 think tank oh it is I know but not yeah 206 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:27,669 I keep missing as well you can always 207 00:08:31,649 --> 00:08:29,889 come I know invitation was always there 208 00:08:33,209 --> 00:08:31,659 well next week we're going to have an 209 00:08:35,429 --> 00:08:33,219 interesting show we've got a another 210 00:08:37,499 --> 00:08:35,439 panel from our adventures and Dragon Con 211 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:37,509 oh yeah and this is one that Kylie out 212 00:08:41,459 --> 00:08:39,309 reporter Carly Sturgis was taking part 213 00:08:44,490 --> 00:08:41,469 of yeah and it's all about Darwin's 214 00:08:46,049 --> 00:08:44,500 Bulldogs creationism intelligent design 215 00:08:48,569 --> 00:08:46,059 and some people like Jeanne Scott 216 00:08:50,249 --> 00:08:48,579 Eugenie Scott always interesting is that 217 00:08:51,660 --> 00:08:50,259 worth looking forward to its hotting up 218 00:08:53,020 --> 00:08:51,670 in that area too is that at the moment 219 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:53,030 because there's a lot of 220 00:08:55,930 --> 00:08:54,470 there's been a lot of new sort of 221 00:08:58,390 --> 00:08:55,940 scientific things going on there trying 222 00:09:01,330 --> 00:08:58,400 to discover more missing links and it's 223 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:01,340 more about how life's actually evolved 224 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:02,930 me isn't it strange that every major 225 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,730 discovery they're making now in the past 226 00:09:09,490 --> 00:09:06,640 year I think there's been several all 227 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:09,500 support the theory of evolution isn't 228 00:09:14,860 --> 00:09:11,930 that just I can't create I'm dumbfounded 229 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:14,870 I'm done for how could that ever happen 230 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:17,330 I just don't understand seven no I just 231 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:18,800 don't understand I'll have to keep 232 00:09:22,330 --> 00:09:20,510 listening to the skeptic zone to learn 233 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:22,340 more especially next week yes absolutely 234 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:24,530 and i believe that i may be doing 235 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:26,000 something coming up in the next episode 236 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:29,360 or two about about strange audio stuff 237 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:31,610 like you're hearing things backwards and 238 00:09:36,010 --> 00:09:34,190 hearing sounds yeah they might are just 239 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:36,020 a little bit of teaser so it could be 240 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:38,000 something coming up about that Bob Ford 241 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:39,590 yeah and they may even be something on 242 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:40,910 this particular podcasters played 243 00:09:47,830 --> 00:09:45,170 backwards ah you never know ah but no 244 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:47,840 honestly don't waste your time we'll see 245 00:09:53,980 --> 00:09:51,290 you next week Richard why but I that